Another collection of fantasy
Peter Zolin 2
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Proceedings of the Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy, 2011 September, vol. 4, No. 9
By Anatole Klyosov View this Author's Spotlight Paperback, 200 pages (5 Zvezdunov)
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Proceedings of the Russian Academy of DNA genekalogii, 2011 September, Vol. 4, ¹ 9
With Anatoly Klesovo
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This is an ongoing issue in DNA genealogy, having (==== irreversible or laughable? PZ) The impact of history, linguistics, and family studies
Guru said
05.10.2011, 20:52
The September issue was published, but there was no button for the first time "free download". If anyone finds it, please let (========= is "playfully coquettish remark," as if mastermind and main sponsor of the process was not initiated and the disappearance of buttons: PZ)
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/proc...4-no-9/17793938
It is not excluded that the publishers decided to abandon such. Then we sent share pdf-files. Some of my colleagues already have them.
CONTENTS ISSUE
Table of Contents. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1708
Once again on DNA genealogy of Russian princes and their haplogroup N1c1 "accompanying"
A. Klyosov. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1709
http://www.proza.ru/2011/05/31/223; http://www.proza.ru/2011/05/06/781;
http://www.proza.ru/2011/02/24/346; http://www.proza.ru/2011/01/21/241; http://www.proza.ru/2011/01/ 20/44; http://www.proza.ru/2011/01/19/330; http://www.proza.ru/2011/01/04/954; http://www.proza.ru/ 2011/01/20/316; http://www.proza.ru/2010/02/15/1130; http://www.proza.ru/2009/06/16/245 etc.
Here AA Klyosov - mostly - support, but would like to see the text
Haplogroup R1b as a carrier of Proto-T; rkic languages, aka Dene-Caucasian languages,
aka Erbin, that is a non-IndoEuropean language in its dynamics during 16,000 to 3,000 years before present.
A.A. Klyosov. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1716
By name, here again he gets all his «aka Erbinom" at the earliest carriers Haplogroup R1b as a proto-language of the Turks, then the "Dene-Caucasian" 16 - 3 thousand years ago. Later Indo-Europeans. Since the chemist and biologist here acts as a linguist, his shyness to publish the text in Russian is fully justified. But linguists are easily understood and English. So zaviraniya guru will be appreciated.
In my thorough acquaintance with the version she zaviralna, but not many on the Internet zaviralnee http://www.proza.ru/2011/08/20/1411; http://www.proza.ru/2010/09/05/ 228;
http://www.proza.ru/2010/09/05/1217 etc.
Current state and subclades of haplogroup branches R1a1a1
(Background Commentary). IL Rozhansky and AA Klyosov. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1774
What is clear is that ultimately nothing is yet clear
http://www.proza.ru/2011/10/01/1450 etc.
The amazing and unexpected coincidences of language between
Lak and Akkadian (Continued). RA Omarieva. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1776
Such coincidences can be found in many languages, including other North Caucasian and Indo-early (up to signs in Russian), the abyss.
http://www.proza.ru/2011/08/27/153 etc.
Study Slavic Vedic "Veles book." Veda 8. First Principle of Slavic faith.
George Maksimenko. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1783
It is as if to White Horse ("Bull").
http://www.proza.ru/2011/08/14/578; http://www.proza.ru/2011/08/24/713;
http://www.proza.ru/2011/09/17/266 etc.
Study Slavic Vedic "Veles book." Veda 9. Of outcomes
Slavs - the Aryans from the Balkans to the Carpathians, the Carpathian Mountains to the Dnieper River, the lake Ilmen
for Southern Urals and from Semirechye in Europe. How and when this happened.
George Maksimenko. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1794
This is about the "white bull." http://www.proza.ru/2011/09/27/1606
DISCUSSIONS
The recent infamous (and failed) attempt to discredit the mutation rate
constants. An overview of Busby et al (2011) article in Proc. of the Royal
Soc. ("B") and Dienekes Pontikos "essay" in his Anthropology Blog.
Anatole A. Klyosov. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1831
Here Klesov fiercely fought with the reasons his critics rate of mutations in the review of Busby et al (2011, article in the Sat of the Royal Soc. ("B") and "essay» Dienekes Pontikos in his blog on anthropology. While the guru himself is not averse to something in his vtihorya correct.
These authors themselves soon "haplogroup Klyosov" directly or indirectly answered.
Letters from the Readers: PERSONAL CASES
Part 31, letters 101-104. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1893
Letters as Letters. Who is here "pismopistsu" judge?
http://www.rodstvo.ru/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t2163.html
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Perhaps this "ton of uranium ore particles" is useful.
But until this patchwork stretches, very intermediate versions (in studies of haplogroups boom updates and upgrades), linguistic zavirany (with minuscule Q) and downright lies at the basis of unproven authenticity to the sources.
Another collection of fantasies "haplogroup Klyosov" (with assets in "three heroes" or "hunters spit").
This, of course, inspires creative thought.
But the real science (evidence-) has a very weak relationship.
=============================== A. Klyosov decided to answer, so "indirectly"
aklyosov
07.10.2011, 14:44
Additional comment to multiple messages above. From the side, and hastily may seem that we are just finding fault with the newcomer. This is not true. Let me explain.
Science is based on the critical thinking stuff that is available today from various sources including (===============, and a critical attitude toward his material, research methods and conclusions: AP Z.). If we just repeat what is already known to science will not be. She stops. The uncritical repetition - the worst enemy of science. Those who uncritically repeats, incapable of scientific thought. He does not know about it, but it is immediately obvious.
(========= Earth revolves around the sun, a heavy fall from the top down, the water at a temperature below -4 and a certain pressure of the atmosphere will freeze until a cure for cancer there, the story created thousands of generations, etc. - the abyss proved by science and proven practices repeatedly reject?)
What is a "scientific thinking"? This ability (ability-trained) to look at any source of information and automatically (mentally) to separate the FACTS (DATA ========== proven and verifiable: PZ)) from the interpretation. Moreover, not only separate, but will compare this data (and interpretation) from different sources. Therefore, people with scientific thought and worked immediately raises other sources, correlates the data and interpretations of different authors. He never catches one, it looks that there is still, published, said on this occasion (=================== it is very common for your team: P take into account all ... . SZ).
And usually it turns out that the alleged facts are not FACTS, it's also We interpret. For example, a fact reported that Baikal will find ancient Caucasians, dating to 45,000 years ago. However, finding the original source appears to have been found only his little finger, and the authors simply assumed that the Caucasians, and that the dating was done "by eye", or it was radiocarbon calibration without that further 20 thousand years ago simply unreliable. However, in some of Wikipedia (and even in textbooks) is presented as "fact."
(================ Neat article in Wikipedia in different languages ;;and usually indicate the most current scientific literature, then you can attract the search engines online, go to the library for publications that have not come to the Internet : PZ)
Further, the interpretation too often done in the interests of the author, without consideration of alternatives. And then just from the ceiling of your (============== "haplogroup", of course, avoid: PZ). Found on the banks of the river a magnifying glass, and the author wrote - maybe it fell out of the telescope Peter. So it went - have found a telescope Peter. Right there in the same formulation - Wikipedia.
And these "facts" and "interpretations" of the historical sciences - the darkness. Pollen found near the remains of Neanderthal man - wrote: "These data indicate that ancient Neanderthals buried with flowers, according to ancient ritual." Do you think I write? Nope, that is - a "fact" of books and textbooks. No one seems to have thought that the poor man thrown into an open pit in which this pollen is complete. And because "so beautiful." (================ Is similar and occurs in all the sciences. But that historians have identified millions of real facts and identified thousands of problems that are interested in other sciences. It's just that professional historians of forces and means at all lacking, but the creative minds of the fundamental and in depth review and knowledge often is: PZ)
We - a new tool, a new science - DNA genealogy (========= this method, a tool known long before "haplogroups your" yea and method Y-DNA haplotypes does not cover all of the shared DNA genealogy: P . SZ). It gives us the opportunity to look at "facts" and "interpretation" from a new angle. We can also make mistakes, so we need to verify our data, check back for other sets of haplotypes that involve other subclades, cross-compare with other data (========== good recognition that a temper often forget and hard to impose intermediate (with zhinennnym cycle in the weeks and months) the results of both required to take into account the history, linguistics, archeology, anthropology, etc.: PZ). But just to quote the old, trite We interpret without citing the source data, repeat like parrots what the ceiling (very often) took the other, that sucked from the finger - on this forum is a crime. (================ You bring a lot of "unlawfully lined nauseam" quotes on your site or see for yourself, starting with copious citation zavirany (in light of new data) itself! Turns out to "Klyosov community", in fact such statements, all the criminals: PZ)
It should certainly not repeat the "known", which is probably wrong (======= see above: PZ), and provide baseline data and revised data from the haplotypes, haplogroups, the dating of the hands. Match - excellent, this is a new level of knowledge. Does not match - need to find the cause (====== is about. Do not own dating statistics zavirany dated history and proved the historical facts correct your exercises shkolyarskie: PZ).
That's what science is. But do not la-la, as we demonstrate here too often. Why such a sharp reply, repulse, rebuff (============== rebuffed and rebuked you get all the opponents (often of good quality scientists, specialists of different sciences, including historical genogeography) of your fantasies that can not be attributed to realngoy SCIENCE: PZ).
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